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Received this from a Threeper I trust implicitly regarding LaRue Tactical quality control problems and service issues. He included a copy of a series of emails back and forth beginning in December of last year. Here’s his latest to me:

Mike,

I’d like to warn people about buying scope mounts from LaRue Tactical since you may well not get the one you need, and then they won’t do anything about it. When you spend $250.00 for a scope mount, it damn well be the one you needed, especially when you called and spoke to their rep before ordering.

If you could warn your readers, I think it would be a great service to them. Perhaps ask David to do the same. The story is in the below email stream.

The picture of my rife, scope mount and scope fitted and bore-sighted attached. As you can see, it has to go all the way up to the turret to get a decent eye relief. Also, I had to crank it all the way up to get it bore-sighted for 100 yards, leaving no more elevation for greater distances.

Before anyone buys a quick disconnect sight from LaRue Tactical, they better know exactly what they need to get because the reps at LaRue have no idea.

The shame is that I have previously purchased two other mounts for ACOGS for my other rifles from them. Still they have no interest in rectifying this situation.

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There will never, repeat never, be M14 Scope Mounts‘s availible from CMP for civilian consumption. Never. Ever. Interceptor_Knight [Team Member] 5/12/2006 12:18:56 AM What happened to all of the rifles that “went back”? Valkyrie [Member] 5/12/2006 12:40:08 AM The base armory( a USN base) has several semi auto conversion, real deal, match M14 Scope Mounts‘s [...]

There will never, repeat never, be M14 Scope Mounts‘s availible from CMP for civilian consumption. Never. Ever.

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What happened to all of the rifles that “went back”?
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The base armory( a USN base) has several semi auto conversion, real deal, match M14 Scope Mounts‘s that shooters(USN Members) can check out for matches.. I was tempted just to get to shoot one..

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The lack of a chrome lined barrel on the SA guns is an added bonus too. MackUSMC [Member] 2/4/2009 10:00:10 PM Do it absolutley! it is a very fair trade. The poly may not have the finnish of the springfields but the parts on the rifle, such as the reciever, and op-rod are forged, not investment cast. the poly barrels are chrome lined and are equal in quality to GI M-14 Scope Mounts barrels. Parts for the M-14 Scope Mounts will interchange with the poly M-14 Scope Mountss with the exception of the gas cylinder lock. the first batch of poly/norinco M-14 Scope Mountss bolts were hit and miss on the case hardening, but you can get replacements or swap the poly bot for a GI. the only caveat about that is have it done properly and make sure the head space is acceptable. The rear sight truss, base and knobs were sometimes soft, and not as durable as the GI or springfield inc. parts.

There are some Class 3 M14 Scope Mounts‘s out there, but they didn’t come from the CMP/DCMC (and they never will). They’re going for about $25K these days.

What about the M14 Scope Mounts‘s that were issued as semiautomatic only? Any of them make it into circulation?
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Originally Posted By 30Caliber:
There are some Class 3 M14 Scope Mounts‘s out there, but they didn’t come from the CMP/DCMC (and they never will). They’re going for about $25K these days.

What about the M14 Scope Mounts‘s that were issued as semiautomatic only? Any of them make it into circulation?

A few NM’s made by TNW as semi, 3 or 4 of them floating around and one ( supposodly legit one ) comes up for sale every now and than usually with alot of contriversy.

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Originally Posted By Interceptor_Knight:
Originally Posted By 30Caliber:
There are some Class 3 M14 Scope Mounts‘s out there, but they didn’t come from the CMP/DCMC (and they never will). They’re going for about $25K these days.

What about the M14 Scope Mounts‘s that were issued as semiautomatic only? Any of them make it into circulation?

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Thanks to Mitch at Mesa Tactical for the info. LoadedDrum 11/24/2010 9:58:40 PM Originally Posted By LoadedDrum: Front is 5-32 (where the f did they get a 5-32 socket screw) and the back is 8-32. Thanks to Mitch at Mesa Tactical for the info. I was having a problem with functioning after I mounted up Mesa Tactical‘s Sureshell side saddle on my 930SPX. After a call to Mesa Tactical they sent me some updated screws that are larger diameter than the originals the same diameter as the factory Mossberg trigger pins.

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never seen one. as far as I know there is no factory threaded barrels.
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There were but not many compared to the number of pressed and pinned guns.
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Go to www.sksboards.com and start posting, and looking there. You can also post a WTB ad, but you may have to make a small donation to the site. That sorta makes you a of the site and lets you see the all of the classifieds and post in the classifieds as well.
Was at a local shop and saw a Glnic imports SKS Rifle Stocks marked “CGA made in China” . It is in excellent condition, all matching, machined trigger group, screw in barrel, and spike bayo. They want $295.00. Never heard of this importer or manufacturer. Is this a good gun?
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I was still able to torque them back down about a quarter turn after each shooting session. CLIFF NOTES: Mesa Tactical SCREWS ARE NOT HARD ENOUGH, AND ARE PRONE TO DEFORMING UNDER NORMAL USE. REPLACING SCREWS WITH GOOD QUALITY STAINLESS STEEL OR HARDENED CARBON-STEEL [ METRIC M4x10MM FLATHEAD SCREWS ] SHOULD FIX THIS PROBLEM FOREVER! [...]

I was still able to torque them back down about a quarter turn after each shooting session. CLIFF NOTES: Mesa Tactical SCREWS ARE NOT HARD ENOUGH, AND ARE PRONE TO DEFORMING UNDER NORMAL USE. REPLACING SCREWS WITH GOOD QUALITY STAINLESS STEEL OR HARDENED CARBON-STEEL [ METRIC M4x10MM FLATHEAD SCREWS ] SHOULD FIX THIS PROBLEM FOREVER! [...]

I was still able to torque them back down about a quarter turn after each shooting session. CLIFF NOTES: Mesa Tactical SCREWS ARE NOT HARD ENOUGH, AND ARE PRONE TO DEFORMING UNDER NORMAL USE. REPLACING SCREWS WITH GOOD QUALITY STAINLESS STEEL OR HARDENED CARBON-STEEL [ METRIC M4x10MM FLATHEAD SCREWS ] SHOULD FIX THIS PROBLEM FOREVER! <– (needs to be verified) To Mesa Tactical: If your reading this, im very interested in your responce to this. I know you guys make good quality stuff, and i know this wasn’t an intentional problem. Obviously the whole "screws are screws" mindset is not true, and i think this is a problem serious enough to warrent being addressed. Im not trying to bash your company at all! I would be very happy, as well as MANY people from that original thread, if you could at least admit this may be an issue. I dont know if this is one batch of screws, or the entire shipment, but if pretty much EVERYONE in that thread has had a problem with the screws backing out (and to the point of one guy’s side saddle flying off), then i think its a big problem. If cost is the issue…. I dont care if i have to spend 10 extra dollars for you guys to include HIGH GRADE STAINLESS STEEL THREADS THAT WONT SOFTEN OR LOOSEN OUT! Thats a GOOD thing to advertise! I really hope you guys make the right decision to fix this problem! or at least do some serious looking into it! As for the rest of you guys: I’ll post an update when i get the new screws, and unload some ammo, and see if they stay solid! F22_RaptoR 6/14/2008 4:27:44 AM Bump for my bed time, and for the morning/day crew. F22_RaptoR 6/15/2008 12:36:48 AM Mmmkay, last bump….. I guess nobody caes about this anymore cms81586 6/15/2008 6:10:10 PM I do. Thanks for the info. I was going to completely pass up the Mesa rail but if they get the screw situation straightened out i’ll consider them again. I’m one customer that they’ll never get if it’s not straightened out. I’m not spending this much money just to buy new screws. CMS Tango7 6/15/2008 11:03:43 PM Good info, but I’ll admit I’m surprised. I know lots of folks on Teh Intarweb the run Mesas, and you’re the first example of this I’ve heard of. Can’t help but wonder if you got a bad batch; they should make it right however. F22_RaptoR 6/15/2008 11:16:48 PM Originally Posted By Tango7: Good info, but I’ll admit I’m surprised. I know lots of folks on Teh Intarweb the run Mesas, and you’re the first example of this I’ve heard of. Can’t help but wonder if you got a bad batch; they should make it right however. Very well could be.

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That kind of stupidity says alot about you

I forgot—schools out for summer—carry on
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Originally Posted By Hemi-Cuda:
Originally Posted By AZ-Dave:
I’m not picking a fight either—and I really DON’T care what anyone else thinks of EITHER rifle.
I have my thoughts on them, thats all I need

I guess i’m pointing out the, (IMO), flaw in using others written “opinion” to support your own.
Use your own experience and knowledge.
Theres always guys that will say “sight your source” and crap—-thats great for numbers and dates—-but don’t mean shit with “this is why I think such and such is better”—-I would rather hear why YOU think its better or worse, not the writer of Modern Gun

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I want an SKS Rifle Stocks that is not a norinco and one that will shoot when I want it to I just dumped my shitty norinco off for 200.00
What should I look for and what should I be expecting to spend ?
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There are recently imported Yugo’s out there for around $279. Knowing how cheap they used to be I balk at the price but I’ve never heard anything bad about them.

ETA: Just found VG Yugo 59/66s at Samco for $259 and Excellent for $299. SOG may have some on their site, I don’t have time to look right now.

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I’ve had 3 different SKS’s. A type 56 Norinco, a 59/66 Yugo, and a type 45 Russian (Tula). The only one worth anything was the Russian. I sold the other 2 and kept the “52 Tula. Russian SKS’s are in the $450 – $600 range here in SW Florida. At the last fun show, July ????, a guy had a ’54 Tula for $450 that was pretty nice.
My Russian goes bang every time. It’s reliable and accurate. Save your money and get a Russian. You won’t be sorry.
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I’ve had 3 different SKS’s. A type 56 Norinco, a 59/66 Yugo, and a type 45 Russian (Tula). The only one worth anything was the Russian. I sold the other 2 and kept the “52 Tula. Russian SKS’s are in the $450 – $600 range here in SW Florida. At the last fun show, July ????, a guy had a ’54 Tula for $450 that was pretty nice.
My Russian goes bang every time. It’s reliable and accurate. Save your money and get a Russian. You won’t be sorry.

wow…450$ to 600$ i would buy an ak before i ever spent that much for an sks.
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The Yugo 56/66 model is ok and right now Cabelas has a bunch on sale for $199.00, but I have never been a fan of them. Now if you can score a Yugo 59, they are sweet shooters but may cost you a little more. The Russian and Romanian I think are some of the nicest out there and I just put a Russian on layaway for $319, which is a decent price, but not great. I bought it to replace my other Russian that has a mismatched mag/floorplate.

Typical russians in the midwest are going in the $400 range with Romainians in the high 3′s.

Check the equipment exchange often for deals as Christmas is coming and people will start unloading some stuff.
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Originally Posted By dwinecof:
There are recently imported Yugo’s out there for around $279. Knowing how cheap they used to be I balk at the price but I’ve never heard anything bad about them.

ETA: Just found VG Yugo 59/66s at Samco for $259 and Excellent for $299. SOG may have some on their site, I don’t have time to look right now.

I had a hell of a time with mine, until I got all of the gunk out of the gas system.

After that, NOTHING stops it. It’s also reasonably accurate, for what it is. I’m perfectly happy with it.

While I’d love to buy more at prices from several years back, $250-300 is still a pretty good deal for what you’re getting. A reliable, 10 round, semi-auto rifle that is built like a tank.

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I am interested in replacing my currant Mesa Side Saddle with one of these units with the integrated rail on top. I might put an optic on the gun later. What can I say: I’m a gadget guy and like the tactical stuff! Anyway, I have a Remington 870P MAX. It has ghostring sites and was wondering if the rail would still allow me to use the sites when there is no optic present. I know that it will not cowitness with an Aimpoint or EOTech mounted, but will I still be able to use the sites without an optic, or does the rail sit too high? Thanks. clasky 9/5/2007 8:46:52 AM Oops. I accidentally clicked on the report button instead of the subscribe button. Didn’t get much sleep last night and haven’t had my coffee yet Mesa_Tactical 9/5/2007 10:49:37 AM We designed the Saddle Rails with the Scattergun sights in mind. Depending on how far back the rear sight is installed, the Saddle Rail could fit on your shotgun with no alterations. And, yes, you can sight right down the central channel in the rail. If your rear sight is installed too far forward and there is interference with the Saddle Rail, a few minutes with a Dremel on the aluminum Saddle Rail should allow it to be installed. So in short while we cannot guarantee the Saddle Rail can be installed on your shotgun without any fitting, it was deigned with your configuration in mind, and can certainly be used with the Scattergun sights. themagikbullet 9/6/2007 7:13:19 AM clasky I don’t wanna hijack this or anything but I have a similar question for mesa Mesa, I’m also interested in a sidesaddle/top rail for my Benelli Accessoriesm2 tactical. Is it difficult to install, and have you tested the m2′s for reliability when holding the 6 and 8 shot versions? spoolup 9/6/2007 10:55:42 AM Clasky, I was looking at the same thing, And was comparing on this image And looked at my factory ghost sight 870 and it I could not tell how much grinding it would take, but it looks like a bit. Here is my 870P But the differnece between the 2 could just be an illuision based off of the differnt angles the gun photos were taken at. Mesa, do you have a photo of the factory 870 GRS sights and the modified sureshell so we can get a idea on how much cutting is required and where?

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Feb 2010 USA NY, USA Offline Posts: 207 Link To This Post EE Feedback 0% (0) 7/16/2011 9:04:53 AM EDT I’ve had several (Colt, DPMS, RRA, etc). Believe it or not, the DPMS A2 AR-15 Stocks was the best. Metal …

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Went to the range with a buddy yesterday and he had thrown one of these on one of his M&Ps. I guess the only thing I can say is that it works EXACTLY as advertised. He didnt have any issues locking the AR-15 Stocks for semi-auto fire or unlocking it for unhindered bump firing. And that’s all it really is. An expensive way to bump fire your rifle. With a little getting used to, you can quickly measure out 3 round bursts or just pour through an entire 30rnd magazine in about 5 seconds.

As far as aesthetics…the thing is atrocious. At $300+, they could have spent a little more time at least making it look/feel half-way decent. I will definitley be keeping my Magpul UBR on my rifle. To me, this is more of a novelty. Very few of us have a need to fire at such a high rate so it really just comes down to the smile factor. Sure, it feels good sending rounds down range as fast as possible, but when you have expended 300 rounds in less than 10 mins…its not so much fun anymore. Once the initial “value” wears off, you will realize you just wasted $300 and a TON of ammo. NOW….if it LOOKED good and had some increased functionality (e.g., cheek rests and better locking function) it wouldnt be so bad. You could always just lock it back in “semi-auto” mode until you get that occassional itch to rock and roll.

You can spend another $300 to put an UGLY AR-15 Stocks (that is not even very functional) on your rifle, which will only cause you to waste MORE money in ammo as you and your buddies riddle the range with .223, and more than likely have to give it up here soon enough anyways if BATF has anything to say about it. Honestly, I hope that DOESNT happen (no matter how pointless this thing is) because it would be just another infringement upon us as gun owners. That’s another discussion though.

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They must work pretty well.
I’d seen the video on youtube Tacticool G gramma sure seemed to enjoy it on her 9mm AR

I believe the ATF is gonna have a hard time making this go away.

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OK, now i’m confused lol..

HK’s type D looks like Varr’s late C…

I’m clear on the early C though
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HK’s type D looks like Varr’s late C…

No it actually doesn’t. A C type is thinner around the buffer tube area and actually shares the same contour as a D type from a side profile. The rounded lug is just wear. A late C used the later production methods to induce foam into the buffer tube cavity so both will share the similar foam insertion process. The D AR-15 Stocks was beefed up around the buffer tube area as deemed necessary in a combat situation, not that a broken AR-15 Stocks AR won’t still function it just won’t function as well. Doesn’t really matter as you probably won’t see more than 6 C types in a lifetime of messing with these things unless working for the govt and even then they haven’t been produced since 1964 so most are long gone. You will see a bunch that are just sanded down type D’s if you stay with retro for any length of time. Was a real popular mod in retroland in the beginning as they command a lot more coins. As far as that goes I’ve seen a B&W production photo in the early 60′s showing an employee sanding a AR-15 Stocks.
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Originally Posted By Cdenmark:
HK’s type D looks like Varr’s late C…

No it actually doesn’t. A C type is thinner around the buffer tube area and actually shares the same contour as a D type from a side profile. The rounded lug is just wear. A late C used the later production methods to induce foam into the buffer tube cavity so both will share the similar foam insertion process. The D AR-15 Stocks was beefed up around the buffer tube area as deemed necessary in a combat situation, not that a broken AR-15 Stocks AR won’t still function it just won’t function as well. Doesn’t really matter as you probably won’t see more than 6 C types in a lifetime of messing with these things unless working for the govt and even then they haven’t been produced since 1964 so most are long gone.

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Jul 2005 NJ, Offline Posts: 2505 Link To This Post EE Feedback 100% (6) Posted: 10/6/2011 3:22:07 PM EST Dont bother make sure the pin channel and bolt is clean shoot away User Info Joined: Oct 2008 CT, Offline Posts: 988 Link To This Post EE Feedback 0% (0) Posted: 10/6/2011 11:30:23 PM EST Make sure you take the entire… (more…)

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Dont bother make sure the pin channel and bolt is clean shoot away
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Make sure you take the entire bolt apart once and awhile and actually clean out the channel and check for rust. Assuming you do that and don’t regularly shoot corrosive ammo through it without totally cleaning it out… you’ll be fine.

Just re what can happen when you drop the bolt on any gun and have it pointed downrange or into the dirt.

I’ve installed murray’s pins…Seems like a good idea but still won’t prevent it from happening if the the bolt gets filled with rust.

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IMO and experience no mod is necessary. Proper and regular maintenance is all that is required. It has been my experience that SKS`s that were recently packed in grease were the worst culprit for slam fires. Here is where a complete bolt disassembly can help along with a good soaking in gasoline or kerosene and a rubdown with good ol` Dawn dish soap. Then rinse thoroghly, wipe dry, and immediately apply some Break Free CLP or any other higher grade gun oil. Happy Shots
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Posted: 10/8/2011 8:57:22 AM EST
The Murray firing pin actually looks a lot like the original SKS Rifle Stocks firing pin design.

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I assume its like a 150moa base. Just because the round is effective doesnt mean you can hit shit with it. FWIW, this lethal range IMO should not even be considered when choosing a weapon. In the Marine Corps we’re taught the max effective range of the M-16 on a point target is 550m, max effective range for an area target is 800m, and max range (not max effective) is 3600m which means that at 3600m you won’t be hitting shit… just that the bullet is capable of traveling that far. The 550m and 800m are the only two that matter but mainly the 550. If the M-16 was good out to 3600m for kill shots then the Army wouldn’t be snatching up M-14s for Afghanistan like they are doing. Lympago

11/17/2009 1:51:39 AM I recommend tossing the comparision bullshit to the side of which one’s lighter this, more reliable that. The M1A/M14 design is a very reliable and durable design. It’s been around for a long time now and has many avid followers for a damn good reason. It’s an amazing rifle and one of the best there is to the person it fits that way. They can also be very accurate and you can tune any M1A/M14 more. Accuracy enough to do just about anything practical you could ever need to do. More useful things than just having mental masturbation about the little tiny groups you can put in a piece of paper. Buy one because you like it the best or don’t waste your time. You’ll probably sell it later otherwise. If it’s heavy for you, than don’t stay being a weak little girl like many people and take the effort to become stronger and make the M1A/M14 lighter. It’s not that hard and the rifle and mags are not heavy to everyone because of it. As far as best all around in handling, range, options, length and capability, the Scout wins that in my experience, but make up your own mind from lots of opinions and info. Good luck. Torment

11/17/2009 3:19:21 AM I thought about the question now for a few days and I think this about sums it up for me. Each rifle listed has a place, none excel at everything without giving up something somewhere. The operator/owner must look at what the mission is and what platform best supports the mission. Basing their choice off that. H2O_MAN 11/17/2009 12:12:48 PM LARRYG: And, once again, we are doing that shoot up in Tennessee next spring. You gonna show up this time and show me how your M14 clone will outshoot my AR10s. Maybe … when is the shoot?